Sparta! Welcome aboard Den. I'm glad to read about your mishaps/doings. I'm sorry your Saturday was wasted, but when you're finally done with grad work, you'll be one happy mofo. As for madden, that fat bastard...Well, let's just say I agree with you whole-heartedly because I haven't purchased one of his games since I had Genesis, and Madden 96 ended up flying out the window towards my neighbor's house and my control exploded into many pieces. When you're up on the Chargers 26-0 going into the 2nd half, you would expect to be able to win the game, at least preventing them from scoring 26 unanswered points. Not the case. Jeff Blake throws 3 interceptions on 3 pass attempts. The only reason I was passing was because I couldn't run either, so I tried passing on 3rd and longs. After having a 12 point lead, I decide to try to run out the clock. Well, the running back fumbles once and of course the Chargers convert a touchdown in a matter of seconds. On the next posession, I get a good return on the kickoff, but oh, guess what, I fumbled. They return it for a TD without getting touched by anyone on my team. Game ripped out of system while power is still on and thrown out window at my neighbor's house. Game ends up on my side of the property, without visible physical damage. I jump on it, try to snap it in half, but it's indestructible. I go on to puncture it with sharp objects, and place it back into its case. Thus ending me ever purchasing a madden product again. And by the way Den, cursing is acceptable. Just try not to overdo it. Saying madden is a fat fuck is AOK in my book, and so on. Thanks for joining dude.